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Cryz_teL AU Cryz_teL Enthusiast
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How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 09:17 AM. Post 1
My friend told me about this group said it would help me with my game. I dont know if i just got unlucky here or i cold have played it better. Any help would be great, thanks

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.25 NL (real money), hand #1,174,820,648
Table Bishop, 25 Oct 2006 12:10 AM



View Previous | Next hand for this table. Seat 1: Yugoogalizer ($26.35 in chips) Seat 2: 9o4it ($25 in chips) Seat 3: Lalalala2 ($25.10 in chips) Seat 4: Semijahti ($22.05 in chips) Seat 5: Cryz_teL [KS,JS] ($25.65 in chips) Seat 7: proka ($15.35 in chips) Seat 8: HamChoppedUp ($33.70 in chips) Seat 9: Tacconi11 ($27.45 in chips) Seat 10: qTazz ($32.55 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS
HamChoppedUp posts blind ($0.15), Tacconi11 posts blind ($0.25), 9o4it posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
qTazz folds, Yugoogalizer folds, 9o4it checks, Lalalala2 bets $0.50, Semijahti folds, Cryz_teL calls $0.50, proka calls $0.50, HamChoppedUp calls $0.35, Tacconi11 calls $0.25, 9o4it calls $0.25.

FLOP [board cards KD,4H,JC ]
HamChoppedUp checks, Tacconi11 checks, 9o4it checks, Lalalala2 bets $3, Cryz_teL calls $3, proka folds, HamChoppedUp folds, Tacconi11 folds, 9o4it folds.

TURN [board cards KD,4H,JC,QS ]
Lalalala2 bets $8, Cryz_teL calls $8.

RIVER [board cards KD,4H,JC,QS,5H ]
Lalalala2 bets $13.60 and is all-in, Cryz_teL calls $13.60.

SHOWDOWN
Lalalala2 shows [ QH,KC ]
Cryz_teL shows [ KS,JS ]
Lalalala2 wins $51.70.



SUMMARY
Dealer: proka
Pot: $52.20, (including rake: $0.50)
Yugoogalizer, loses $0
9o4it, loses $0.50
Lalalala2, bets $25.10, collects $51.70, net $26.60
Semijahti, loses $0
Cryz_teL, loses $25.10
proka, loses $0.50
HamChoppedUp, loses $0.50
Tacconi11, loses $0.50
qTazz, lose
 
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Ken.P US Ken.P Pokah! addict
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RE: How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 01:06 PM. Post 2
It isn't horrid calling 2 off the button. But, as you came to find out, KJ is easily dominated. Most of us with two pair are going to pay the other guy off -- it is that simple.

The criticism comes on the turn betting. He only called on the flop and then the Q caused him to raise. Many will play the KQ so it is a holding you should consider. He seems to validate that hand with the river betting. He is screaming he has a hand.

I'd rather play lower, suited one offs or such than regularly play KJ. KJ is easily dominated and something like 57 is a sneaky holding that can get a nice payday and an easy fold when it misses.
 
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Ken.P US Ken.P Pokah! addict
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RE: How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 01:10 PM. Post 3
I should have mentioned AT also. Seeing he didn't hold that he overplayed things as much as you did.
 
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geiststaat US geiststaat Enthusiast
Posts: 895 		 

RE: How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 02:27 PM. Post 4
I'm not opposed to slow playing, but hitting KJ is a vulnerable 2 pair. A, Q or T are all bad cards for your hand. Unless this guy is reall aggressive, I would usually raise on that flop. Even had you done that, however, he is probably calling and sucking out on the turn anyway, and you go busto one way or the other.
 
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Big_SlicAK US Big_SlicAK Pokah! addict
Posts: 1229 		 

RE: How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 08:54 PM. Post 5
KJ and KQ are trap hands. be careful with these. Cards that improve your hand often give excellant draws to others. I dont have a problem seeing the flop with suited KJs but hitting 2 pair gives a straight draw to AQ, A10 you also have the nut flush that could cost you alot of money. The Queen hitting spells disaster as it could complete a straight or in this case a better 2 pair, Its hard to get away from 2 pair. It ended up costing you your whole stack.
I don't think you played it wrong and I probably would have called as well. This is a good lesson in reading what your opponents bets mean. Having raised the flop they are not concerned with top pair. I would have reraised the flop to find out where i was at. Make it $9.
 
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spaceboy761 US spaceboy761 Veteran
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RE: How did i play this

Oct 24, 2006 09:35 PM. Post 6
That's a hard read on Lala on the turn. 2-pair is impossible to read anyway without an obvious draw out there (AT is a limited draw at best). You'd just have to read the $8 bet as a stronger signal. Tough hand.
 
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_Ashley_J AU _Ashley_J Veteran
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RE: How did i play this

Oct 25, 2006 08:46 AM. Post 7
The only thing I'd like to add.

At no stage did you give yourself a chance to win.

All of your actions was calling. I've made the same mistake plenty of times.

As pointed out, the texture of that flop was dangerous. I don't even know that you could get them to fold top pair in that situation, which is why with KJs your most likely looking for the flush rather than 1 or 2 pair.
 
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