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geiststaat US geiststaat Enthusiast
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Overpairs

Dec 1, 2006 01:52 PM. Post 1
Not sure I played these correctly, so let me know what you guys think. There both from the 50NL game at Bodog.


Hand #1 QQ
I have $42 stack and SB covers. One limper, guy to my right miniraises and I raise it up to $4 in the CO. SB calls, limper folds, miniraiser calls.

Flop: 589 rainbow (pot $13)
They check to me and I bet $13, SB miniraises to $26, and other guy folds. I decide this is either push or fold, as calling pot commits me. Not much of a read on SB's playing style, yet. I push. Thoughts?


Hand #2 TT
Villian has $39 and I cover. I raise to $2 utg, Villian calls along w/ BB and one other. Villian's calling range here does not include hands like A4 or A6, probably not suited connectors either. High probability of a pp.

Flop: 664 rainbow (pot $8)
BB checks and I bet $6, Villian is only caller. Somewhat worried about a possible 44 for him at this point.

Turn: 4 (pot $20)
I decide to check raise as I no longer think he has 44. He bets $5, I push. Thoughts?
 
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pockett AU pockett Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 1, 2006 09:29 PM. Post 2
i think that with hand 1, you could be pushing here with a hand that is second best. Where as hand 2, i expect you to be pushing with the best hand.
 
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spaceboy761 US spaceboy761 Veteran
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 3, 2006 12:33 PM. Post 3
Same as Pockett. I really don't like pushing on the first hand. Even if you are ahead, you're probably only a 3:2 fave... not much risk premium there. Second hand is behaving like he's behind but it's also a tailor-made spot for a slowplay of a boat or trips. I wouldn't go crazy and would just call. For some reason, I'm smelling JJ or another higher PP for him.
 
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geiststaat US geiststaat Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 5, 2006 10:18 AM. Post 4
Both hands I ran into KK. I'm in agreement with you guys on hand #1. Miniraise usually = monster. My thought at the time was that I was up against a pair and gut shot draw, but I'm just not that big of a fav there, so looks like I need to fold it.

Hand #2 I think the guy just played it strangely. Well, I'd say just calling with KK preflop for both of them is a bit strange, and perhaps that is what threw me off. The small bet on the turn, though, is also kind of strange. I don't think there is any need to push on hand #2. If I'm ahead, most of the pp I beat are folding. I'm thinking now that a smaller c/r would have gotten the job done in that spot if I want to take the hand down right there. Alternatively, I could just lead the turn for half pot or so and fold to a raise. I'm guessing he just calls here, given his previous play, then makes a small bet on the river if I check. Probably lose less that way.
 
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Ken.P US Ken.P Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 6, 2006 09:10 AM. Post 5
On the second you ran into a trapping player. The question to ask is: did I show him something that made that course acceptable or is he just prone to those kinds of moves.

Maybe you need to Move Up A Level happy
 
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spaceboy761 US spaceboy761 Veteran
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 6, 2006 12:20 PM. Post 6
I was always a big proponent of this. Playing against easier opponents isn't necessarily more profitable. Playing the RIGHT opponents is.
 
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Ken.P US Ken.P Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 6, 2006 02:57 PM. Post 7
As a discerning and worldly fellow then you love this article by him.

OK, I've had my fun... happy

I bet he hasn't seen that one...
 
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geiststaat US geiststaat Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 6, 2006 05:19 PM. Post 8
No, haven't seen that one. I didn't read through it, but does someone actually translate or is that produced via a translation program?
 
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Ken.P US Ken.P Enthusiast
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RE: Overpairs

Dec 7, 2006 12:12 PM. Post 9
You've got me on how it is translated. Having seen how bad the online translation stuff work, I guess they might run it through and a German speaker then makes it less silly.

If not, you have donkey status on two continents. happy
 
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