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iceman za3 Pokah! addict Posts: 6401		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 01:48 AM. Post 21
		TY Mark, and GL in your game... I hope it isnt rigged!

Marky_Crash Enthusiast Posts: 8177		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 01:51 AM. Post 22
		ty , i hope so too ice

skyangel67 Member Posts: 322		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 01:53 AM. Post 23
		hear hear ice i mean 3 accounts (that we know of) and at least 2 or is this the 3rd thread on pr being rigged, just under different headings with different words but basically saying the same thing. hmm no luck at Bwin? (lol) u keep saying ure leaving here, but u keep coming back as some1 else? do u play much live poker marc? i mean no offence but the same riggedness and "predertimed" hands end up in there too. not sure how they do it. have a great day

mussorgsky Enthusiast Posts: 7699		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 02:56 AM. Post 24
		So you want them to rig it so the same hands can't come back? If this is correct then ONGAMING really needs to change this and make it totally random, I see all to often the same hands same bad beats. Please give your thoughts... Can you please confirm that you now have at least three accounts here, and that you have played real money poker from all three? Have you claimed the startup bonuses from all three? Have you opened the accounts using different names?

skyangel67 Member Posts: 322		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 06:14 AM. Post 25
		hmm its all very interesting, specially when u dont want to play here anymore

Noah Sinking Senior member Posts: 1212		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 08:56 AM. Post 26
		No Marky I think yours was just a glitch in the Matrix, we often see it as deja vu

mussorgsky Enthusiast Posts: 7699		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 09:51 AM. Post 27
		ctmason you wont be getting "100% random" online anyway...the possible shuffles used online at the moment at least are a fraction of what that would be. I really don't understand this argument at all. Imagine a casino where the poker dealers walk around great piles of packs of cards, huge masses of them. They then select one pack at (pseudo?) random, and deal. It would be absurd. In fact, any fair card game would be impossible, because there are not 52! packs of cards in the world. Fortunately they get around this by shuffling one pack of cards instead. The fact that there are 52! permutations (or is it 52! - 1?) is neither here nor there. It doesn't matter. The fact that a computer cannot store 52! numbers of deals is equally irrelevant. They don't have to. There are children below the age of ten who can write a program to shuffle a pack of cards. Admittedly to do it securely takes some skill, but the point is, simulating a shuffle of a pack of cards using a computer is easy. You need roughly 104 variables, not 52!. Edited by moderator mussorgsky: (May 16, 2008) Reason: added word 'fair'

sufur Enthusiast Posts: 2352		RE: Hands MUST be predetermined May 16, 2008 11:18 AM. Post 28
		If they're predetermined, I likes it TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-67766705-93 played at "Assiut" for USD RM from 2008-05-16 10:27 until 2008-05-16 10:28 Seat 1: sufur ($53.30 in chips) Seat 2: berdy2loose ($10.60 in chips) Seat 3: sir_freddyx ($48.70 in chips) Seat 4: Schlawiener9 ($40.70 in chips) Seat 6: ChipsPLZzz ($50.15 in chips) Seat 7: hitri333 ($76.85 in chips) Seat 8: player20007 ($40.85 in chips) Seat 10: Rebetwin ($47 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS berdy2loose posts blind ($0.25), sir_freddyx posts blind ($0.50). PRE-FLOP Schlawiener9 calls $0.50, ChipsPLZzz folds, hitri333 folds, player20007 folds, Rebetwin bets $2.50, sufur calls $2.50, berdy2loose folds, sir_freddyx folds, Schlawiener9 calls $2. FLOP [board cards: KD 8D 7S ] Schlawiener9 checks, Rebetwin bets $3, sufur bets $8, Schlawiener9 calls $8, Rebetwin folds. TURN [board cards: KD 8D 7S 2S ] Schlawiener9 checks, sufur bets $22, Schlawiener9 bets $30.20 and is all-in, sufur calls $8.20. RIVER [board cards: KD 8D 7S 2S 2H ] SHOWDOWN Schlawiener9 shows [ 8S 8H ] sufur shows [ 2C 2D ] sufur wins $86.15. SUMMARY Dealer: sufur Pot: $87.65, (including rake: $1.50) sufur, bets $40.70, collects $86.15, net $45.45 berdy2loose, loses $0.25 sir_freddyx, loses $0.50 Schlawiener9, loses $40.70 ChipsPLZzz, loses $0 hitri333, loses $0 player20007, loses $0 Rebetwin, loses $5.50