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0flushgordon DE 0flushgordon Senior member
Posts: 1390 		 

how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 03:37 AM. Post 1
early in a 30$+3$ SnG...

TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T4-77220513-14
played at "Sta.Barbara" for USD TC from 2008-09-24 15:44 until 2008-09-24 15:45
Seat 1: nicov22 ($1,340 in chips)
Seat 2: tournevis75 ($1,940 in chips)
Seat 3: yanakacha ($2,975 in chips)
Seat 4: bahijadeperp ($1,185 in chips)
Seat 6: De Angelis ($3,685 in chips)
Seat 8: 0flushgordon ($995 in chips) KcJd
Seat 9: brucki61 ($1,535 in chips)
Seat 10: Deustu ($1,345 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
De Angelis posts small blind ($15), 0flushgordon posts big blind ($30).

PRE-FLOP
brucki61 folds, Deustu folds, nicov22 folds, tournevis75 calls $30, yanakacha folds, bahijadeperp calls $30, De Angelis calls $15, 0flushgordon checks.

FLOP [board cards: KS KD QS ]
De Angelis checks, 0flushgordon checks, tournevis75 bets $105, bahijadeperp calls $105, De Angelis folds, 0flushgordon ??
 
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Miltbrann NO Miltbrann Senior member
Posts: 1685 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 03:42 AM. Post 2
I remember that hand!

didn't it go like this?


PRE-FLOP
brucki61 folds, Deustu folds, nicov22 folds, tournevis75 calls $30, yanakacha folds, bahijadeperp calls $30, De Angelis calls $15, 0flushgordon checks.

FLOP [board cards: KS,KD,QS ]
De Angelis checks, 0flushgordon checks, tournevis75 bets $105, bahijadeperp calls $105, De Angelis folds, 0flushgordon calls $105.

TURN [board cards: KS,KD,QS,KH ]
0flushgordon checks, tournevis75 checks, bahijadeperp bets $150, 0flushgordon calls $150, tournevis75 calls $150.

RIVER [board cards: KS,KD,QS,KH,2H ]
0flushgordon bets $500, tournevis75 folds, bahijadeperp calls $500.

SHOWDOWN
0flushgordon shows [ KC,JD ]
bahijadeperp mucks cards [ QC,JH ]
0flushgordon wins $1,885.



SUMMARY
Dealer: bahijadeperp
Pot: $1,885
nicov22, loses $0
tournevis75, loses $285
yanakacha, loses $0
bahijadeperp, loses $785
De Angelis, loses $30
0flushgordon, bets $785, collects $1,885, net $1,100
brucki61, loses $0
Deustu, loses $0
 
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0flushgordon DE 0flushgordon Senior member
Posts: 1390 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 03:48 AM. Post 3
lol, grinch ! very_happy
 
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0flushgordon DE 0flushgordon Senior member
Posts: 1390 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 03:49 AM. Post 4
next time, I will not post the hand number wink
 
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Miltbrann NO Miltbrann Senior member
Posts: 1685 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 03:56 AM. Post 5
Sorry Flush, I couldn't help myself very_happy
 
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croywhale GB croywhale Enthusiast
Posts: 2167 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 04:22 AM. Post 6
Nice hand flush. happy

Personally, I'm not that keen on check/calling on the flop and again on the turn and then leading out on the river. It does smell of disguised strength.

In this situation, depending on reads I would either:
Lead out on flop, check/raise the turn and shove the river (if not shoved on turn) or,

Check/call the flop, lead out on the turn with decent sized bet and shove river.

I prefer the lead out option on flop this time as there are 2x spades + str8 draws on the flop which may call + you'll likely to be called by a Q with reasonable kicker as well.

Hitting quads on turn cannot be expected but when it does, ANY Q will call off their stack (+ a badly played AA).

An all in from one player gives you more than a smaller amount from two players. Two players need to give you more than half their stacks to give you more chips and if they are prepared to give you half their stacks they are prepared to go all in.
 
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0flushgordon DE 0flushgordon Senior member
Posts: 1390 		 

RE: how to extract chips

Sep 25, 2008 05:39 AM. Post 7
Thx for the answer, croy.
A lead out on the flop would be a good play too, but probably I would have been facing just one opponent or none.

I dont like a lead out on turn anymore, I made this move on the tv table of the race trophy with quad 8s, minbetting on the turn, trying to look like stealing the pot, the opponent folded quickly his AJ. If I would have let him hit an A or J on the river or bluffing at me, I would have maybe won all his chips.

So I wanted to give them both a chance to hit the river making the second best hand.

Afterwards I dont like my Riverbet, the opponent would have only called the 500 bet with a Q or a high PP, he would have called my rest stack too with it, so Allin would have been better.
 
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dyrtydawg CA dyrtydawg Senior member
Posts: 123 		 

RE: how to extract chips?

Oct 3, 2008 08:14 AM. Post 8
Funny, I was reading this thread when this hand came up.
Should I have checked the river?

TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T4-77844602-6
played at "San Marino" for USD TC from 2008-10-03 08:07 until 2008-10-03 08:09
Seat 1: antebet ($1,040 in chips)
Seat 2: TDCblind ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 3: titine88 ($4,310 in chips)
Seat 4: R___I___P ($560 in chips)
Seat 5: MC Mike sp ($1,470 in chips)
Seat 6: RIVERIX x ($1,190 in chips)
Seat 8: dyrtydawg ($1,470 in chips)
Seat 9: x Bronko12 ($3,460 in chips)
Seat 10: karadidou ($1,320 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
x Bronko12 posts small blind ($15), karadidou posts big blind ($30).

PRE-FLOP
antebet calls $30, TDCblind folds, titine88 folds, R___I___P bets $60, MC Mike sp calls $60, RIVERIX x folds, dyrtydawg calls $60, x Bronko12 calls $45, karadidou calls $30, antebet calls $30.

FLOP [board cards: QD 8H QS ]
x Bronko12 checks, karadidou checks, antebet checks, R___I___P bets $360, MC Mike sp folds, dyrtydawg calls $360, x Bronko12 calls $360, karadidou folds, antebet folds.

TURN [board cards: QD 8H QS 8D ]
x Bronko12 checks, R___I___P bets $140 and is all-in, dyrtydawg calls $140, x Bronko12 calls $140.

RIVER [board cards: QD 8H QS 8D JC ]
x Bronko12 checks, dyrtydawg bets $450, x Bronko12 folds.

SHOWDOWN
dyrtydawg shows [ TH QC ]
R___I___P mucks cards [ 8S AD ]
dyrtydawg wins $450, dyrtydawg wins $1,860.
SUMMARY
Dealer: dyrtydawg
Pot: $2,310
antebet, loses $60
TDCblind, loses $0
titine88, loses $0
R___I___P, loses $560
MC Mike sp, loses $60
RIVERIX x, loses $0
dyrtydawg, bets $1,010, collects $2,310very_happy net $1,300
x Bronko12, loses $560
karadidou, loses $60
 
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dyrtydawg CA dyrtydawg Senior member
Posts: 123 		 

RE: how to extract chips?

Oct 3, 2008 08:17 AM. Post 9
Sorry i was last to act.

Should I have raised the Turn?
 
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lykanthropos NO lykanthropos Enthusiast
Posts: 5115 		 

RE: how to extract chips?

Oct 3, 2008 08:18 AM. Post 10
Ure last to act, why check river?
 
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