I am really clueless on the concept of playing mid-range connectors, soooted or not. I will play SC sometimes, but for the most part, I'm not comfortable enough with "when" or "what position" etc. that playing SC or OSC is an option. So...let's hear it...and remember I'M BLONDE! Sometimes, I have to hear it from a few different angles before the light bulb comes on.
The theory goes, as I understand it, that you want to play suited connectors in a multi-way pot. The bigger pot gives them a chance to pay off the odds, as they will win few pots, but the ones they do will be larger.
I play them very carefully, mostly suited. If the flop doesn't hit me hard, it is easy to get away from.
Also, don't be too eager to push when the flop hits your flush. I have busted out several times when some **** called with a Q2 suited as an example.
The more aggressive players will raise with these babies. I far prefer to limp.
Cool, this does validate my thought process a little bit, TY. The only thing I did think about playing Connectors was that it is best to be in a later or last position and when there are alot or the majority of players in the pot. I figured that in this case you would think most of the high end cards would be in the pockets and the chances of your connectors actually making a winning hand would be greater.
I only play these in multi-way pots. It's the only way to generate enough reward for the risk of playing weak cards. If you do make your hand, it's a tailor-made slow play. As I once said to a friend after taking a lot of his money by slow playing 3-2 suited, "Let's see you put me on this, you *******."
I'm no limit guy, so that might be the place to play them multi-way. In NL I dont care if its multi-way. I'm not trying to build a big pot by getting a little from a bunch people, I want to get one guys' whole stack if I make a hand, or get a small pot if i don't. So I almost always play them for a raise designed to isolate one guy, and then I hope he misses the flop and I can buy it right there. Of course best case is if he does hit it, but I hit it harder. Then it's stack time, cause he will never put me on that hand.
Also in my experience with these, and I play em all the time: like MB1 says, the suited part of suited connectors is what will get you in trouble. What happens with those is you wind up flopping a flush draw that never materializes and it costs you money. Either that or you make the flush, but you dont get paid on it, because flushes are easily read. Worst case in the world, and this happens too often if you are playing hands like this, you make the flush and you are out-flushed. So basically, you are screwed with the sooted part. If you make it, you probably wont get action unless you are beat.
I'm against limping these puppies. Reason is they cost you more that way in the long run. If you limp, you are basically playing them to hit. You won't have an isolated pot, so it will be near un-bluffable if you miss. So you have to hit, and the chances of it hitting just arent that great. Furthermore, since you didn't raise, it gets easier to put you on a hand if you hit. So if you have 56 suited and the flop comes 66k, KJ boy is not gonna give you his stack if there was no raise preflop. He will believe you have that 6 when you bet it. he might not if you had raised preflop. So you dont get paid. Summary: If you dont raise with these you must hit. Even then, if you do hit, you wont get paid. So limping, i'm against it.
DM, what makes you chose any one connector over another? Are there lower range cards you won't play? Or is it like Gus Hansen where there are no bad whole cards and anything is fair game to play full out?
They are all about the same. 45 is the lowest I play, as the lower two have a smaller chance of making a straight. But no difference between 45 and 89 for me.