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F13F - GLITCH, CHEAT, OR GENIUS?

 

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Jeremy-1986 NZ Jeremy-1986 Senior member
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 06:44 AM. Post 11
yeah, that's what i was meaning, the evidence suggests its one person (or group of people) controlling the accounts and using them for transfers, rather than a superuser winning from regulars (as has been suggested elsewhere). i imagine information about the players' login times/ip addresses could be interesting.

i don't think that the leaderboards are network-wide - the skin i play has a completely different one and i've not seen mention of the pr ones on any skins (although admittedly i've never really looked too hard).
 
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Jeremy-1986 NZ Jeremy-1986 Senior member
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 06:47 AM. Post 12
although it's very strange given they could just transfer through headsup ring games - private ones even - rather than hundreds of sngs. or, you know, vouchers.
 
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mussorgsky GB mussorgsky Enthusiast
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 07:09 AM. Post 13
Stevey makes a good point in the other thread about the length of the name. Is F13f even a valid username? Do you know any players with names of fewer than five characters?
 
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croywhale GB croywhale Enthusiast
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 07:13 AM. Post 14
N1 muss and all...lurking the links as we speak. Evertime I'm about to reply new info comes up...be back later wink
 
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Jeremy-1986 NZ Jeremy-1986 Senior member
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 07:21 AM. Post 15
that's a really worrying thought given the potripper scandal and what not. i mean, if it's an illegitimate name, and they're not really names that scream 'legitimate test account', i'm at a loss to think of any explanations without assuming the worst.
 
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iceman za3 ZA iceman za3 Veteran
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 07:29 AM. Post 16
A few thoughts here please comment.

1. CC fraud, firstly I would assume that if this is the case then the card owner would have been notified of the deposit, or recieved it on his/her statemnet, and no doubt put and end to it, yet the games continued so it almost rules that out.

2. Chip dump, for what reason would they chip dump? the money would appear if it has just gone round in circles? They have not used this as an advantage in MTT's or otherwise.

3. HU ladder Promo, no prizes exist that we know of.

Or am I way off base? What has been gained here?
 
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Jeremy-1986 NZ Jeremy-1986 Senior member
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 07:29 AM. Post 17
account signup form says names must be between 8 and 12 characters - no idea how long that has been the case, though.
 
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weakdraw2 DK weakdraw2 Senior member
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 08:04 AM. Post 18
Its pretty weird for sure.. Is there any doubt that F13f is signed up with pokerroom ? I dont play at this skin regularly so I dunno if that HU-Ladder thing is for PR customers only?
 
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mussorgsky GB mussorgsky Enthusiast
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 08:12 AM. Post 19
You know, if it wasn't for the existence of the other players, I would think this was another glitch like that thing with the ampersands.
 
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iceman za3 ZA iceman za3 Veteran
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RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius?

May 17, 2008 08:13 AM. Post 20
Off 2p2, I still dont see how he could of got away with CC fraud for so long?

maybe he doesnt know that much about poker, he only had 10-15 non dumping games and he didnt do well. i think the "fraud" angle is plausible.

thats a lot a lot of work just for a graph.

things to consider, all of the dumping accounts were only used for one day and appears to be for approx the same amount of money $150-$310, but odd amounts, the odd amounts are why he had to play so many different stakes in order to empty the accounts.

so fraudulent (stolen credit cards or something) transaction into a brand new account with fake details of course, he immideately dumps the money to F13f and then withdraws the money somehow, he does this over and over again for about $12,000. Ongame's security is so crappy that he gets away with it for at least 400 HU dumps.
 
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