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F13F - GLITCH, CHEAT, OR GENIUS?

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Jeremy-1986 Senior member Posts: 1704		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 06:44 AM. Messages 11
		yeah, that's what i was meaning, the evidence suggests its one person (or group of people) controlling the accounts and using them for transfers, rather than a superuser winning from regulars (as has been suggested elsewhere). i imagine information about the players' login times/ip addresses could be interesting. i don't think that the leaderboards are network-wide - the skin i play has a completely different one and i've not seen mention of the pr ones on any skins (although admittedly i've never really looked too hard).

Jeremy-1986 Senior member Posts: 1704		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 06:47 AM. Messages 12
		although it's very strange given they could just transfer through headsup ring games - private ones even - rather than hundreds of sngs. or, you know, vouchers.

mussorgsky Enthusiast Posts: 7565		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 07:09 AM. Messages 13
		Stevey makes a good point in the other thread about the length of the name. Is F13f even a valid username? Do you know any players with names of fewer than five characters?

croywhale Enthusiast Posts: 1251		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 07:13 AM. Messages 14
		N1 muss and all...lurking the links as we speak. Evertime I'm about to reply new info comes up...be back later

Jeremy-1986 Senior member Posts: 1704		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 07:21 AM. Messages 15
		that's a really worrying thought given the potripper scandal and what not. i mean, if it's an illegitimate name, and they're not really names that scream 'legitimate test account', i'm at a loss to think of any explanations without assuming the worst.

iceman za3 Pokah! addict Posts: 6046		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 07:29 AM. Messages 16
		A few thoughts here please comment. 1. CC fraud, firstly I would assume that if this is the case then the card owner would have been notified of the deposit, or recieved it on his/her statemnet, and no doubt put and end to it, yet the games continued so it almost rules that out. 2. Chip dump, for what reason would they chip dump? the money would appear if it has just gone round in circles? They have not used this as an advantage in MTT's or otherwise. 3. HU ladder Promo, no prizes exist that we know of. Or am I way off base? What has been gained here?

Jeremy-1986 Senior member Posts: 1704		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 07:29 AM. Messages 17
		account signup form says names must be between 8 and 12 characters - no idea how long that has been the case, though.

weakdraw2 Member Posts: 1		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 08:04 AM. Messages 18
		Its pretty weird for sure.. Is there any doubt that F13f is signed up with pokerroom ? I dont play at this skin regularly so I dunno if that HU-Ladder thing is for PR customers only?

mussorgsky Enthusiast Posts: 7565		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 08:12 AM. Messages 19
		You know, if it wasn't for the existence of the other players, I would think this was another glitch like that thing with the ampersands.

iceman za3 Pokah! addict Posts: 6046		RE: F13f - Glitch, Cheat, or Genius? May 17, 2008 08:13 AM. Messages 20
		Off 2p2, I still dont see how he could of got away with CC fraud for so long? maybe he doesnt know that much about poker, he only had 10-15 non dumping games and he didnt do well. i think the "fraud" angle is plausible. thats a lot a lot of work just for a graph. things to consider, all of the dumping accounts were only used for one day and appears to be for approx the same amount of money $150-$310, but odd amounts, the odd amounts are why he had to play so many different stakes in order to empty the accounts. so fraudulent (stolen credit cards or something) transaction into a brand new account with fake details of course, he immideately dumps the money to F13f and then withdraws the money somehow, he does this over and over again for about $12,000. Ongame's security is so crappy that he gets away with it for at least 400 HU dumps.